Question:
Why should you tip the pizza guy (or waiters and waitresses)?
anonymous
1970-01-01 00:00:00 UTC
Why should you tip the pizza guy (or waiters and waitresses)?
97 answers:
Briana J
2007-08-24 15:48:01 UTC
Because they get paid a pittance, in short. Most waiters/waitresses/delivery folks get in the neighborhood of 2.15 an hour and have to declare 9% tips on their income tax. My DH drove food delivery for a short time. He made 2.00 per transaction and was expected to make it up on his tips. He'd average fifteen deliveries a day/25.00 in gas money HE had to pay, and would take home maybe 10.00 a 6 hr. shift after taxes.



The affluent were the worst tippers, by the way. One guy tipped him 8 CENTS on a 90.00 order.



Thankfully, the job market opened up and he was able to get a job in his chosen profession.



Thanks for your service, poster. Many medical jobs are thankless. However, I'd imagine you earn quite a bit more than 2.00/hr.
Cmdr Z. Princess
2007-08-24 15:58:58 UTC
You are unfortunately extremely ignorant of the way the restaurant business works.. Waiters, waitresses, and pizza delivery folk have families to support and college to pay for as well. It has absolutely nothing to do with being appreciated, it has everything to do with the fact that tipping is part of their expected salary.How much do you get paid at the hospital doing the work you do? I'd bet it was at least $18/hr.



Waitstaff generally makes $2.13/hr, less than minimum wage. Pizza delivery staff makes about $6/hr. On top of that, waitstaff has to "tip out" to bartenders and hosts/hostesses whether YOU tip or not. A standard "tip out" percentage is 3%-5%. So even if you tip 15% (the bare minimum for decent service) the waitstaff is only getting 10%. If you eat a $20 meal, for instance, and don't tip at all, the waiter is out of pocket about $1 for waiting on you. Not to mention you took up one of their tables for 45 min - 1 hour where someone else would have tipped them at least $2 for a %10 tip. Also, your job probably includes benefits, which waitstaff and pizza delivery people have to pay for out of their own pocket.



When I waited tables, I was spit at, yelled at, and complained to on many occasions. People are just plain rude and many waiters and waitresses work long hours as well. Oh, not to mention when you do work a 70/hr week waiting tables, you're only making $3.19 an hour for those extra 30 hours. None of your customers are going to tip you 23% just because you've pulled 12 days straight.
brookeispimp
2007-08-24 15:55:02 UTC
You guys are getting payed more than us. Were probially making MIN. Wage...Tips help us pay for gas, apartments and other stuff. For the people that we put up with, oh like you who dont think we need to be tip and maybe tip a dollar on a $20 tab. We bust our butts making sure your food is exceptional and that you need everything and anything. If your going to tip bad or be rude...cook for yourself. Because its really hard for us to make it in the world when your making hundreds of dollars more than us..



You know how many horrible hospital/doctor storys i've had? Yeah, to many. You guys need to learn how to bust your butts...work in a resturant and learn. Jeeze...
Susan P
2007-08-24 15:50:44 UTC
Here in NJ, minimum wage for waitstaff is $2.12/hour (unless it's finally gone up). People who wait tables for a living make less than the federal minimum wage and rely on their tips to survive. So, the service they provide is virtually unpaid, unless you tip them.



I can appreciate your frustration, but the medical aides and so forth make $10-30/hour...much more than your average server.



And how do you know that your waiter/waitress isn't supporting a family as well? You really can't tell just from looking at them, or by the type of job they have.
anonymous
2007-08-25 01:12:20 UTC
Personally I like tipping. That way, instead of charging $15 for a burger w/ fries, they charge $12. If the service sucks, then I don't have to tip. That way I control how much the total bill is, based on the attitude of the server.



All you people wanting to do away with tipping are forgetting that the extra 20% would be automatically added to the bill. That mean the server gets the tip automatically, regardless on how they perform. That would give them license to be even less motivated than most of them already are.
anonymous
2007-08-24 16:01:12 UTC
1. You don't have to tip servers.

2. Doctors get paid enough, I believe, to not have to accept dollar bills from their dying patients while they cut open their organs.

3. Servers are getting paid minimum for a reason. They work for tips. They do their job well for the customer for tips. They don't enjoy it.

4. What's the difference between grabbing your food at a counter then having it delivered to your table? Comfort. Convenience. Laziness. Do you really think Americans want to go up and refill their water every ten minutes? Please, sistah.
wicked4hand17
2007-08-24 15:55:50 UTC
Hey, Im a server at a respectable food serving company. And unlike your 15-35 dollar an hour salary, I make the servers minimum wage of a whopping $2.83 and hour. Yes, 2.83, if that isnt enough for you to tip, how about the fact that I'm a college student at penn state paying my own tuition, so since your a nurse, im sure you know how much college is. Oh, and we also work our asses off to serve the slums of the general public. Let me just say thank you to everyone who does tip 15% and above, you are kind and decent people. Oh, by the way asshole, dont ever go to a restarant again where you didn't tip, because theres one rule of thumb to all customers...Dont mess with the people who make your food.
Don't Quote Me
2007-08-24 15:51:11 UTC
I assume you get a full wage for your job. Service staff like waiters and waitresses do not. Depending on the state, minimum wage for servers is half of the regular minimum wage, and the rest comes from tips. So the person "already paid" to bring you your food is getting paid somewhere around $3.00 an hour. The rest of their wage is up to your discretion and their good service. While you may not think this is the way the restaurant industry should function, it does provide servers with monetary motivation to serve you better. If you get bad service, you should feel comfortable tipping less and letting the manager know. (At the restaurant I used to work at, that type of complaint did get you a comped meal.)
elsie
2007-08-24 15:48:28 UTC
Waiters/waitresses/delivery guys are often paid much less than minimum wage. Your tip is what allows them to come home with SOMETHING to pay their bills with.



By tipping, you ensure that the server will do his or her best to make you happy, and you also get the chance to reward a server for exceptional service. I very much enjoy leaving 20-30% tips for the folks that do a particularly great job.



You chose to work in the medical field knowing that there are no tips involved. Theoretically, you should be relishing the fact that you are helping people every day. I am involved in this field as well, and I know for a fact that you are making MUCH more per hour than your local waitress.



Also, I'm sure you get your fair share of cookies, candies,and other treats from families of the sick people you help. Not to mention all the heartfelt smiles and thank yous.



Yet, you seem so bitter that you take it out on waiters and pizza guys? Shame on you.
bryndilulu
2007-08-27 12:32:24 UTC
I work as a server at a buffet style restaurant. A LOT of people don't tip us because they think we don't do anything but bring plates and refill drinks. Let me explain why that's an ignorant assumption:



When you dine there, you go through the front line, get your drink, silverware, and plate, and you pay for your meal. Then you pick where you want to sit. Your server--who, depending on the day and time, has between 7 and 25 (sometimes more, seriously) tables to tend to--brings you dinner rolls, clean plates, and keeps your drink refilled as well as gets you any extra condiments you may want. We also clear your dirty plates as you finish with them, and bus the table when you leave. Our restaurant doesn't have bussers, we do it.



While waiting tables, we also have to switch out the soda syrups when they go out, and those weigh over 40 pounds. A time consuming process that takes you away from your tables, much like cleaning the dish room. Every server is required to clean the dish room at least once per shift. This entails dumping all silverware, changing the water, sweeping and mopping the floor and stacking trays. It takes quite a few minutes and can be killer on tips if it's busy. We also have to do bar checks (where we go wipe down the bar, stir the food, fill the dessert and soup bowls, and stock the bread station) every 15 minutes to an hour, depending on how busy. These don't take long, but you have to stop whatever you're doing to do it, so that can affect tips. We brew coffee and tea, fill ice, cups, mugs, and plates, and make sugar water as needed.



But that's not all. When we're not waiting tables, we're also responsible for cleaning the entire front of the house (dining areas), wait stations and bathrooms. We have to sweep the carpet floors, clean the table bases, chairs (including legs), walls, windows and blinds. We clean the table tops and stock them (refill napkins and sugars, clean sugar caddies and bottle caps, fill low condiments, replace empty ones), stock the wait stations with condiments, ice, coffee, tea, napkins, cups, plates, mugs, filters, straws, paper towels, etc., sweep and mop, clean the soda machine, and take all highchairs to the dish room and spray them down and wipe them out. During all this time, we get paid $2.13 an hour, and it usually takes at least an hour and a half to get everything done. The larger tasks are broken up by week. We do one task each night. However, that $2.13/hour is actually more like $1.13/hour for us because we have to pay $5 per shift to the silverware roller so that we don't have to stay 2 hours at the end of the night rolling it ourselves. (State law allows employers to "pool" employees no more than 15% of all tips received for such things). This is not an option, however, it is required. So we can't choose to roll it ourselves. Because shifts are around 5 hours, it averages to a dollar an hour. If you pull a double, you pay twice. So we basically get paid $1.13/hour where I work.



Also, we don't get breaks. On a busy day, you don't even have time to go to the bathroom. Doing so risks your tips. If you work a double--typically 8 hours, sometimes 12 or more--you get one 30-minute break to eat. For servers that smoke, you can ask to "move your car" and management will allow 3 minutes for them to smoke.



People that don't tip are remembered. And word does spread from one server to another that certain customers don't tip. So the service goes from all those things mentioned above you getting what you pay for:

If you don't think I deserve a tip for services rendered, if you think I don't really do anything, by all damn means, have it your way. I won't offer you bread, I won't refill your drink, I won't bring you clean plates or take your dirty ones. You want A1 sauce? Too damn bad. Find it yourself. I'll do what you want when you stop and ask me for it. And you only get that much so I don't get fired. Go to a restaurant and get no service, then you'll realize that the server is working hard. A lot harder than you realize.



And as someone else mentioned, the people that don't leave tips are the ignorant assholes that will run you hardest. We call them "the entitled" where I work. The people that act like you owe them something. I don't owe you sh!t. And Sundays are the worst. Huge groups of people will stay for hours and leave nothing. Like last night; 20 people, 5 tables, 2 hours, toddler vomited on the table and the filthy, nasty parents left it there, $4 tip. Shameful. I was good to them, and they told me as much. Many thanks from them all, but guess what:



THANKS DON'T PAY THE BILLS! My mortgage company, the cell-phone company, my utilities company, and the doctors office DON'T TAKE PAYMENT IN THE FORM OF THANKS! Your gratitude, while appreciated, is worthless to me. Gratuity is expected for good service. If I sucked as your waitress, I don't expect a tip, but when I serve you well, damn straight I do.



And that lame "you choose to work it, so it's your own fault that you only make $3/hour, and that's all you deserve." BS. We do a job that you need. You're the one that wants to go eat without having to do anything yourself. You want to be waited on. We're providing you a service. You appreciate that, whether you acknowledge it or not. What it is, is you take it for granted. Too many people do. It's hard work. Harder than you know. And it's such a blow to go home after a 12-hour Sunday, in physical pain and totally exhausted to know that you only made $60 in tips. If every person left just one dollar, I'd make $250 on a Sunday. $1/person. How is that too much to ask?



I waited on a homeless man once. He left me $2. That was touching. If he can leave a tip, you soulless bastards making 10 times more than us, can drop a couple bucks.
anonymous
2016-04-01 18:05:23 UTC
I actually almost never get pizza delivered, so I wasn't sure what the accepted tipping rate was. In the future, I'll take it into account. But, as someone above pointed out, waitresses are tipped because they earn $3 an hour. Tips are figured into waitress's pay. Delivery is just another minimum wage or above job... there's not really a reason that delivery people should get tipped anymore than the guy who cooks the pizza.
Renea M
2007-08-24 16:14:02 UTC
Personally I agree that in some cases it should not be the patrons duty to pay the employees wage, but in this society, it is the way it is. Some instances require tips where others I don't think should.



Here are my rules:

Delivery guys....definitely tip because they are driving to your house to do something that you could have done yourself. If you can't tip delivery driver, then go get the pizza or food yourself, use your own gas and time. No tip less than 2 dollars, anything above a 20 dollar order should be 10-20 percent based on if they are friendly, not because the pizza is cold, late or wrong order, because most of the time the driver does not have control over that.

Same with waiter/waitress at a bar...either tip or go to the bar yourself which at the bar I don't tip unless mixed drink (they will make better drinks if you tip).

Everyone else, tip at your own desire. I have been in the industry. I figure, it is the right thing to do. One day you may be in the same shoes as them and karma is a *****.
djmentat
2007-08-24 16:08:24 UTC
What you need to look at is waiters/waitresses and pizza delivery people do not make all that much per hour. Waiting tables a combined total of 6 years I can tell you it's ruff trying to make a living doing it. You get paid $2.13/hr + tips. If people don't tip you don't make $. You work in a customer service job and get all the nastiness from people on the same as a waiter/waitress and feel the pain. The difference should be that you get paid more per hour to deal with it, where as the server does not. Servers have to deal with all the rudeness, yelling, name calling, and just down right rudeness of people. They have to do it with a smile and good attitude, and don't hardly make enough to pay the taxes out of their pay checks unless people tip. I can't tell you how many pay checks I've gotten less than $10. So many years of this is what was the reasoning for me to get out of the customer service field and now I work in IT and love that I don't have to deal with it, but coming from the other side I'll always tip well, if the service is good. If the service isn't good i'll only tip a little. Oh yeah, the pizza delivery guy makes a little more per hour and gets compensated some for gas. Also if you ask you'll find that most pizza places charge a delivery fee included with your total that you don't know about. Usually $1-$1.50. No need to tip the pizza guy too much, but they as well don't make as much per hour.
fishermel007
2007-08-24 15:58:16 UTC
The pizza guy gets a tip because the store doesn't pay for their gas (most of the time). They make competitive minimum wage, but that goes to their bills (the tips pay for the gas they use to bring you the pizza). Yes, it's unfair for that to be your problem, but I just consider it a service charge.



Waiters are a little more important to tip, as they don't even make minimum wage. The standard pay is $2.15 per hour... the tips are understood to make up the rest. If a server doesn't make enough in tips to bump that up to at least minimum wage, the store has to add money to the check... they don't like to lose money to the employee that way, and will give you a hard time about it. Waiters work harder than you'd think, and their tips ARE their pay. All taxes are taken out of the $2.15 that ends up on the paycheck, and quite often waiters will have a zero paycheck. I used to work 25-30 hours a week and the biggest check I'd ever get after taxes was about $12 every other week.



A lot of the time the fault of the service IS the server, but a lot of the time it's the kitchen, too. Use your own judgment, but keep in mind if you don't leave the server any tip, you may be preventing them from paying a bill.
Michael K
2007-08-24 18:21:19 UTC
Theres a difference between Delivering Pizzas and Working in a hospital. Im pretty sure you make a decent living in your kind of work if not I doubt you would be doing it. Delivering Pizzas is at most a minimum wage Job. I Deliver Pizzas and we get less then minimum wage because the government considers us a Tipped Employee therefore we are not required to get Full Pay. Most Waiters or Waitresses don' t make more then a couple of bucks an hour and Pizza Guys/Girls make a few dollars more around 5 or so. If you don't want to tip, make the food your self, serve yourself, or pick up the damn pizza yourself.
Chad
2007-08-24 16:16:19 UTC
Sounds like you need a new job, not to happy are you? Waiters/Waitresses/Pizza Delivery people work for tips. They make minimum wage and delivery people get 50 cents for each delivery regardless of what the delivery fee is. That delivery fee is all profit for the business. Why do you tip a maid, don't you pay the hotel for a clean room? Should you tip the front desk person for giving you a room? A janitor doesn't work relying on tips, it's their choice. Waiters/Waitresses/Pizza Delivery people depend on tips as part of their income and some have families too, they have to deal with traffic, gas prices, wear on their vehicle, rain, snow, rude customers, etc. Most waiters/Waitresses don't even make minimum wage before tips. These are all "tipping" positions, yours is not. If you don't want to tip these people, stay at home and don't order out! If the service sucks then you have reason not to tip. If no one tipped waiters/waitresses/delivery people then believe me there wouldn't be anyone doing these jobs.
richvette
2007-08-24 16:08:30 UTC
I know what you mean and I used to feel the same way when it came to tipping. Once I became a hotel valet though, everything changed.

Tipping usually gets the employee to work harder and deliver better customer service. For instance, I would run my butt off to get people's cars because I wanted them to see me working hard. I was also extremely polite and friendly. It was fake, but the customer doesn't care and in the end, they got great service and I got a decent tip so we’re both happy.

The other thing is that these jobs are usually under paid and often make well below minimum wage because they are expected to make up the rest in tips. If they provide good service, you are really hurting their income by not giving them a reasonable tip.

On the flip side, if they provide poor service, you now have the power to give them a low tip or no tip at all. If the employee continues to have a bad attitude, no one will tip them well and they will need to move on to another job because they won’t make enough money. It’s a way of making sure that only the people who are suited for such work do it for very long.
Katherine S
2007-08-24 16:07:26 UTC
We don't HAVE to tip the server/delivery person. Tipping began as a method to encourage those who did an exceptional job and has now evolved into something that's expected by every server/delivery person. As a former waitress, I never expected a tip even though it meant I made less than minimum wage. If I got a tip I felt that meant I did a good job or at least a good enough one to deserve at least a little something. You should tip if the person does a decent job of serving you. Keep in mind how busy the place is while you're there too. That impacts how you are served.

Some restaurants will withhold a portion of the server's wage because the tips are supposed to supplement up to minimum wage. A place I worked for did that. (The restaurant paid me $3.25/hour and my tips were to supplement to $5.15 which is South Dakota's minimum wage). Keep that in mind next time you go out to eat. The person serving you may be making less than minimum wage whereas people who do caregiver jobs are most likely being paid a little above minimum wage.
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2014-09-25 12:57:54 UTC
hey have to do it with a smile and good attitude, and don't hardly make enough to pay the taxes out of their pay checks unless people tip. I can't tell you how many pay checks I've gotten less than $10. So many years of this is what was the reasoning for me to get out of the customer service field and now I work in IT and love that I don't have to deal with it, but coming from the other side I'll always tip well, if the service is good. If the service isn't good i'll only tip a little. Oh yeah, the pizza delivery guy makes a little more per hour and gets compensated some for gas
LANAKI_
2007-08-24 16:32:03 UTC
Hi,



You may or may not be aware that the minimum wage for a server is far below the federal minimum wage for most other occupations. Servers in restaurants EARN their tips by serving us. It's quite a bit different than going through the drive through at McDonald's. A good server will do everything he or she can to make sure you have a pleasant dining experience. They greet us with a smile, keep your drinks filled, make sure your food is prepared properly, and work as our personal liaison with the kitchen. When something is wrong the servers usually take the brunt of the customer's dissatisfaction even though they generally aren't the cause of the error. A professional attentive server is worth far more than the minor stipend of $2.13 an hour the set by the federal government. Also many servers have to share their tips with the bartender and or bus boys. We should gladly pay for their great service.



I hope this helps answer your question.
sweetp
2007-08-24 16:35:02 UTC
Why should you tip the pizza delivery guy? Because it cost him $3 in gas to bring you your pizza. As for waiters/waitresses, some are paid as little as $2.13 an hour and rely on tips earn a livable wage. Now, maybe you'll say that the pizza place or restaurant should have to pay higher wages. That's fine, but your $13.99 pizza will now cost you $19.99, and your Denny's grand slam will go from $6.99 to $11.99. Maybe if you treated people with respect and realized they weren't there just to 'serve' you, you would get better service. Oh, just one more thought, if the service and/or food sucks, you usually do get a free meal. Sadly, the same can not be said for poor medical services.
Nick
2007-08-24 16:10:32 UTC
You have a good point. I usually tip because I know the pizza guy is probably not paid well anyhow and (assuming they do a decent job) I am happy that I don't have to drive to pick up the pizza myself.



The real issue that I have been noticing lately is that the pizza companies charge a $1-$2 or more delivery fee. So, I just subtract a $1-$2 from the tip I would have given. The fact that they tend to hide this fee in the price is what upsets me.
NeedsHelp
2007-08-24 16:06:04 UTC
According to http://www.dol.gov/esa/minwage/q-a.htm



"An employer may pay a tipped employee not less than $2.13 an hour in direct wages if that amount plus the tips received equal at least the federal minimum wage, the employee retains all tips and the employee customarily and regularly receives more than $30 a month in tips. If an employee's tips combined with the employer's direct wages of at least $2.13 an hour do not equal the federal minimum hourly wage, the employer must make up the difference.



Some states have minimum wage laws specific to tipped employees. When an employee is subject to both the federal and state wage laws, the employee is entitled to the provisions of each law which provide the greater benefits."



However, this is a really strange thing that is not as prevalant in the rest of the world. In Spain when we tipped as we do here people were shocked and told us it was way too much. It is quite frankly bologna that we are expected to pick up the tab so that employers can be cheap!!



Don't get me wrong I believe in tipping for good service, and generally leave some tip for those that served me as long as it is above a very basic level. However, this should be based on SERVICE not on how big my check was. I have servers that I think are phenominal I will tip them more even if I am at a cheaper resturant, than I would someone at a facncy expensive resturant who had poorer service, not as a percentage, but in absolute dollars.



I say leave a tip for someone who provides a valueable service to you. But don't leave 20% if you are not truely happy.
macbeth00798
2007-08-24 16:23:09 UTC
I can guarantee that you are paid far more than a waiter, waitress or deliveryperson precisely because you have to deal with all the lovely things that come with caring for patients. You are an educated, certified professional, and are paid accordingly. It's unfair to compare your job, and lack of tip with jobs in the service industry--it's apples and oranges. I am a tax accountant, and no one tips me if I get them a better refund. I am reasonably well paid for what I do, and would never dream of expecting a tip.



Service people are often working very low-paying positions specifically because the tipping is customary, and is supposed to make up the difference between poverty-level pay and a living wage. If you receive poor service, don't tip, or tip a low percentage. However, if you make it a practice not to tip waitstaff unless they actually bend down and lick your shoes, I'd be careful to never visit the same establishment twice, if you get my meaning.
Stixx
2007-08-24 16:05:32 UTC
I was a delivery driver for Shaka Pizza in Kihei, Maui, HI from June 1994 until May 1995 (highly recommended, btw. Phenominal New York style pies and cheesesteaks). I made $6.15 an hour... in HAWAII. So, yeah, my existence depended on the kindness/courtesy of people I delivered to. I was once like a lot of the people above this answer... why should I tip, blah blah. Having had the experience of being on the other side of the fence, I am obscenely generous when it comes to tipping delivery guys. I'll tip ten bucks on a twenty dollar order. Not only because I know that bad tip days can be financially devestating, but it also brightens their day. And they remember. I know for a fact I did.



Someone above said that richies tip the worst. I can tell you that is 100% fact. I once delivered to the Grand Wailea Hotel... $130 worth of food. Now, this is a $1k room a night type of place. Swank. Well, this guy must have broken his bank to stay there because he gave me $132. Two dollars. Thanks Uncle Moneybags! I had his food to him in 23 minutes, too.



The flip side is I did fairly well for myself. Working five 6 hour days a week, I made $2500 to $3000 in tips per month. For driving someone else's car around (they provided the vehicles). Superbowl Sunday '95 I went home with $350 in tips for the day. I had a blast during my stay there, even if some of it is a blur. ;)



There's no law requiring you to tip, of course. It's just a classless, garbage tactic on your part if you don't. And unless you've done that sort of job, there's really no way for you to understand. It's just the right thing to do.
sully's inferno
2007-08-24 16:36:28 UTC
First of all, in this country it is CUSTOMARY to tip your wait person. I have delivered pizza and other delivery foods and I considered myself to be a waiter on wheels. I made minimum wage plus $.65 gas money per delivery. I drove my car, used my gas, paid my insurance, etc. I delivered in the Texas heat (it is 102 degrees right now), the rain, sleet, snow, ice, and even when tornadoes were in the area. I delivered until 1:00 am on Fridays and Saturdays. I drove around with a lighted sign on my car that basically said drive like an idiot around me. I was ROBBED at knife-point by two thugs a week before Christmas. I was extremely lucky to average over $15 an hour (this was several years ago and here that is not bad for a part-time job). I kept detailed records of my sales, tips and gas money. All this being said, my tips and gas money averaged less than 10% of sales. Twenty percent of my customers actually tipped. The ones that did tip were usually nicer than the non-tippers. To sum up, in my opinion, the fact that someone is a non-tipper usaully says something about them as a person. If you can't afford to tip someone at a restaurant or at your door, maybe you shouldn't go out or order delivery food.
anonymous
2014-12-10 00:03:32 UTC
the waiter/waitress/pizza guy??? Its their job to serve us! If the service sucks do we get a free meal? NOOOO!! The only people I will tip are maids in the hotels, cooks, laundrymat personnel, and janitors because they are greatly unappreciated and they're probably supporting a family of 4-6. But for waiters/waitresses/pizza guys to expect a tip, its just crazy...NOW don't get me wrong, if the service is exceptional...I will tip...but to stand there and expect more money for something your already paid to do is just stupid.
Tammy E
2007-08-24 16:40:53 UTC
I understand tipping waitstaff and others who do not make minimum wage, but what about those who are paid a full wage and still expect tips - for example - Hotel Housekeeping (different from cruise staff on a ship). They make minimum wage or higher but expect a tip as well. I used to do this job many years ago and never got a tip. I only leave a tip if I have made a mess that is going to require effort to clean. I tip those who work on my hair, drive my taxi (although not shuttles if they don't carry my luggage) etc.



I tip waitstaff (including delivery drivers) 15% for ordinary service. For better service I tip 20 - 25%. I even tip when I pick up a to-go order (usually about 10%) if it was ready when promised.



Service Professionals who go out of their way for me or a family member, I try to remember to say Thank You and how much I appreciate the care or a small token gift (when my mom was in ICU or my daughter in the hospital). But these people see you at the worst of times and sometimes it is an emotional experience so people are often not thanked although they are appreciated.



Bottom line, tipping is a personal choice, you "should" do it but you don't "have" to do it. But personally, I believe that if you haven't been dependent on tips for your living you are lucky - appreciate those who are with a small token of appreciation (by the way tip means to insure promptness).
Tanya
2007-08-24 16:18:27 UTC
WOW..Im really shocked at how greedy people can be!

First of all to the poster of the question....You are right when you say that people of your profession should be tipped..you work way too hard and under high stress levels...i know because I've been there.

***BUT***

I do not agree with you for not wanting to tip waiters & delivery people.

First of all....waiters/waitresses..get less than the average hourly wage....and they are serving you prepared food! Food that you do not have to do all the cooking yourself...they wait on you hand & foot amd "most" will go outta their way to make sure you are happy.

Now..for delivery people? They are saving you TIME & GAS to bring you prepared food! Just so you can have a nice meal in the comfort of your home delivered right to your front door. They only get minimum wage!



Now as for your profession? You are getting WAY more than minumum wage...i know i made $16 an hour...depending where you live it could be more or less.

SO you ARE being paid to do your job!
splashy451
2007-08-24 18:47:27 UTC
You tip cooks, but not the pizza guy? Raw pizza? We do not get paid well at all. Seeing as tipping is "expected" in the service industry, the boss-man feels it's ok to pay us less. I am supporting a family on my own while i work and go to school- I put a lot of effort into my work hoping to get a tip because a) i took you order, b) i made your order, c) i got order together, packed it and gave it to you with a smile asking if there was anything else you would like and d) you can't feed kids on minimum wage.

If you get horrible service then i can see not tipping, but you can't lump all pizza people together - there's a big difference between some college kid half-assed working for drinking money and those of us working hard and going the extra distance who have families to support.
libermentis
2007-08-24 16:21:07 UTC
Because their wages are set by their employers *expecting* that they will be getting tipped for at the very least adequate service. They are not subject to the minimum wage rules, and make $3-5 per hour. Not that I don't feel your pain - I worked as a CNA for years, and we were not even allowed to *accept* tips, even if the rare family offered one. But I've also worked as a waitress, and not getting tipped means that you're not even clearing minimum wage for another job that, frankly, can run you just as ragged on, say, a busy Saturday night, or when the kitchen doesn't get your food out quickly, or when the host/ess has no choice but to seat three customers in your section at once.
JS
2007-08-24 16:09:43 UTC
Assume your waitress brings you food, drinks, and anything else you might want, then on top of all that cleans up the mess you have made at the table. How is that any different from being your maid? The cooks are paid much better than the wait staff. I put myself through college making $2.19/hr plus what the polite, respectful, and appreciative patrons left me in tips. Work as a waiter for a few days and you'll understand.
Litte mama
2007-08-24 16:13:13 UTC
I agree whole heartedly. Unfortunatley not all waitress/ waiters get alot for doing their job. Most is 3 dollars and some odd cents and hour and live off of the tips. In other cases a mandatory tip is added to you bill already at certain restaruants so before leaving a tip check your receipt and make sure you already didn't pay it or ask management when coming in if there is such a requirment. Applebee's is one of these restaurants that has a requirement of 15 percent tip that gets added automatically to your bill.
JohnBoy Walton
2007-08-24 16:09:15 UTC
I have a big problem with tipping 'servers'. I honestly feel it is the business' way of passing on employment expense to the customer. With that being said, I do understand that it's not the poor guys fault who has to perform some of the menial jobs, like pizza delivery man. I usually just pay so that he doesn't have to give me change. I.E. If the tab is $18.20, I'll give him a $20 and say keep the change. I REALLY despise waitresses, etc. who EXPECT tips, regardless of service. When service sucks, I tell them so with little or no tip. I don't have to say anything else.
DeliveryDriverSD
2007-08-24 16:21:00 UTC
For one of my three jobs, I am a pizza delivery driver and we get paid minimum wage, or less. We are expected to make up the difference with our tips. We are not reimbursed for our gas costs (Even though the company that I work for charges a delivery fee). We also incur much wear and tear on our vehicles (Clutch, Brakes, Tires, Engine) and put them at risk for accidents as we are rushing you your food. When there are mistakes, it is never our fault. We don't make the food. We just bring it to you. When you don't tip us for a mistake that the kitchen makes, (we have to make a second trip later with the correct order), this can be really disappointing. I can tell you from personal experience, that we know how much everybody tips and when the good tippers phone in an order, we make sure that they get their pizza first (since we take pizzas two or three orders at a time) and the scrooges get theirs last. Also, I have never done this, but I know that there are people who spit in your pizzas, or worse if you don't tip. You might get away with it once, but we remember by the 2nd or 3rd time you stiff us. So, go on and continue leaving us empty handed. As long as you phone a new pizza place every time you order pizza. I have friends in the restaurant waitstaff business and they have some really creative ways of getting revenge on people who don't tip them as well.
notovereducated
2007-08-24 16:16:18 UTC
I don't envy you your job. That's why I don't do it. I also suspect you make more than minimum wage. I'll let you in on a secret - I have given my biggest tips for bad service. When the manager has decided to let some poor server work a whole room by themselves, I don't expect them to single me out for special service. Be reasonable. See how hard they are working. Sometimes, you have to wait a minute or two extra. On the other hand, I have left a one cent tip on a credit card before now. THAT tells the server you noticed them chatting with their co-workers while you sat ignored at your table.



And you need to get away from the generalizations about people. It makes you sound ignorant. And if you carry an attitude like that around with you, it won't help your service.
Ryan T
2007-08-24 15:55:49 UTC
Society finds it important to tip service jobs because their wages are so low ($5.80-7.00 and hour or even less for waitresses!). You also have to remember that the pizza guy spent his own gas money to bring that pizza to you, it rarely if ever get reimbursed by the restaurant. Other tipped jobs, such as casino dealers, may have to pay taxes out of pocket because their wages are so low and not enough to cover the average tip rate. Your job wages pay you more per hour than waiters or pizza delivery. Also, nurses aides, dental assistants, and X-ray techs get paid more per hour, and thus dont need tips, to be completely honest.



You seem upset, if someone gave you crap about not tipping, just understand its a personal decision, and if it was bad service than treat it as such. But if it was good service, dont be a tightwad!
former pizza store manager
2007-08-24 16:29:02 UTC
Waiters/waitresses and pizza delivery persons work for minimum wage from their employer - sometimes a few cents more hourly for long time service or part time management, but LOW wage. That is because the labor laws allow for tipping and the manager/owners have to pay minimum wage. The owners expect tipping to make up the difference and the employees also pay taxes on tips. Wait staff must split or share their tips with bus boys/girls and bartenders at a predetermined ratio. Think about what you tip in terms of that person's TIME according to what YOU are paid per hour and tip accordingly.



Figure $5.15/hr (going up to $5.85 soon) in my state plus the amount to make the $7.00hr - $10.00/hr most people with high school education receive depending on how many customers he can serve in an hour. For a pizza delivery person, that is 2 -3 in an hour depending on Corporate rules and the manager's discretion. So at the outside, at $10.00/hr he makes $3.33 per customer and his paycheck covers $1.72. So you should probably tip AT LEAST $1.50 – 2.00 for him to make $10.00/hr. All traffic laws must be obeyed even if the store personnel are behind and it's HIS ticket and points on HIS driving record. Having owned a pizza store, I tip my delivery driver 15% of the cost of the pizza which allows him to rest easy that night that he has money in his pocket, even if it’s only mine. I often felt like “tipping” my late night drivers after them being “stiffed” all night and some people even have the nerve to write bad checks and short the driver on the pizza cost and expect the driver to make it up. In a restaurant 15% of the entire bill, including drinks (that bartender again) should be left for the waiter unless the service is lousy and it is HIS fault. You have the option of speaking to the cook or owner and straighten out any problems that are not his - don't penalize the lower-paid person. Because tipping is done, good servers/deliverers make better money; therefore the incentive to give good service and influence the cook and the owner to keep service high quality. Etiquette - which seems to be lost on most people in this day and age - requires that you tip a service person - you used to tip a bathroom monitor for providing a towel that someone had to wash (in Europe that is still the case in lots of places so don’t forget your change) - but now the servers/salespeople/managers usually clean up after your messes and don't receive tips. Been there; done that. How many times do you forget to flush or leave paper lying around, spill something and cover it up, or throw something on the floor of a restroom? Is that good patronage? You also have a responsibility for your good service and rudeness never wins; the truth in kindness will every time. More than 15%, if you can afford it, will earn you the reputation that people will fight over you to impress you. You be the judge!



So $1 is an insult, nothing is inexcusable, and some day you may need to pay for a surprise Cesarean delivery that your insurance doesn't cover or pay for books that your well-deserved scholarship doesn't provide or pay for groceries that the deadbeat father of your children walked out on or pay for your medications before you are old enough for Medicare, and you'll be in their shoes. Thanks for delivery people when I'm too tired and want to watch my favorite movie or when friends arrive unexpectedly or I simply want a hot meal after painting a room all day. Some people actually love serving others like even the children in my family and we genuinely want you to have good service and come back and refer your friends. Do you not wonder why your regular delivery is always handled by different people – maybe it’s because you always “stiff or lowball” the driver? Use your head and tell me what you think now that I’ve enlightened you.
anonymous
2007-08-24 16:14:53 UTC
I agree with most of what you just said. I tip if the service is exceptional. I am a cook myself and I think the same way about waiter,waitresses, and pizza deliverys. The person that works the hardest is the person cooking the meal. Yeah sure the cook makes 10 bucks per hour and when its slow he gets to clean the fryer or something nasty like that. but when a waiter or waitresses that makes min wage can average $17.00 per hour and when its slow they get to sit on there butts and eat clam chowder I think that its pretty one sided. I think really what should happen is that if you go to a resturant if your food comes hot, fast, and tastes great then the 20 percent tip should be split up between the cooks and waiters and even the bus people. As for pizza delivery people. well most of them make 8.00 per hour and can deliver 2 to 3 different pizzas to different location. So when you add it all up if they sell a pizza for $10 and you leave a 20 percent tip, well thats 2 bucks. Now if he can deliver 1 pizza to 3 different people in a hr well thats another 6 dollars on top of his 8 bucks per hour. Wow not bad 14.00 per hr...

Now lets think about that poor pizza cook. The oven is 550 degrees and hes making 8 bucks per hr and is busting his butt from the start to the end of the night.
anonymous
2007-08-24 16:11:45 UTC
I do agree that doctors (and especially nurses) should get tipped. But also consider this: in most family-type restaraunts, waiters and waitresses make well below minimum wage. I made $2.65 at my old job and with tips, barely hit minimum wage. Nurses deal with a lot of crap, but they also make better money. Delivery people have to buy gas for their cars so that they can make their rounds, and they also make just above minimum wage. Besides, the majority of waiters/deliverers are college students and NEED the money. I just started and am already flat broke. ;)



Oh, and by the way- I've cleaned up barf, been felt up more than once, and a three year old with very sharp teeth almost tore my arm off once. And restaraunts get a LOT more drunk guys than hospitals (concious ones, that is)
Elizabeth T
2007-08-24 16:10:17 UTC
Now, I live in Austin, Texas. Its an allright place. Minimum wage for a server position here, is $2.13/hour. That is why we expect tips. Tips are how a server gets paid. Thats it. I cannot remember the last time I received a paycheck over five dollars! Now, you might be saying, yeah, right! Well, this is how it works. I get taxed for every dollar that you spend. How? Like this. If in one week I sell $2,000 worth of food for a restaraunt, they expect that I should make at least $300. If everyone had your attitude, I would make nothing in tips. But the restaraunt will not allow me to claim $0 in tips. So they tax me for the $300 that I should have made, but did not. So do I get a paycheck? NO! The reason I cannot claim zero is because of the IRS. So until you leave me a decent tip, I am actually paying to wait on you until you leave me a good enough tip to balance it out, except that I am not getting paid because the restaraunt and the IRS expect you to tip me.



Servers are very particular about remembering faces. It would take me about twice to wait on you and I would remember that you dont tip. Word passes around the server staff, and before you know it, no one wants to wait on you. Everyone feels sorry for the poor sucker who gets your table, and you will forever get mediocre service. Its a cycle that will never end.



Granted, you are not required to tip your server staff, but think about it next time. If you dont want to tip, or get bad service, you can either tough it out and tip or dont eat and sit down restaraunts. You really are screwing us all over. If tipping is really that hard for you, order water for everyone at the table, and tip based on what you saved by NOT ordering drinks. If there's four people you would save about nine dollars off your bill, which is a good tip for a table of four. Think about it next time.
Kevin M
2007-08-24 16:08:17 UTC
In response to the original answer and question...During college and for a little while after I worked as a waiter. I gave good service and was not overbearing nor ignorant. I expected a tip every time because I was conscious of giving proper service every time.



I do agree that expecting a tip can seem wrong. And yes it is our job to serve you...however, many including myself were paid under minimum wage, i.e. $2.13/hour, which after taxes amounted to a $30.00 paycheck every two weeks. That seems unappreciated and I too was supporting myself and a family.



I do agree that to expect a tip and not do well serving is ignorant in of itself. But I ask everyone to put themselves in others' shoes and realize that many servers are trying, are getting paid next to nothing, and rely on your tips for their income.
?
2014-12-10 01:16:51 UTC
think about it next time. If you dont want to tip, or get bad service, you can either tough it out and tip or dont eat and sit down restaraunts. You really are screwing us all over. If tipping is really that hard for you, order water for everyone at the table, and tip based on what you saved by NOT ordering drinks. If there's four people you would save about nine dollars off your bill, which is a good tip for a table of four. Think about it next time.
jamison
2007-08-28 04:42:15 UTC
First of all the maids,cooks,laundrymat person and janitor make at least minimum wage if not better. I know for a fact that cooks make well above minimum wage.

Pretty sure I don't know of any PT aides, drntal assistants, LVN, CNA, RN, or Xray techs that make $2.13 an hour.

Yes I said $2.13 an hour. That is what your Waiter/Waitress in the state of Missouri makes. Most oif them are trying to support a family of 4-6 too. I hope I NEVER have to Wait on YOU.
HibbleBibble
2007-08-24 23:20:39 UTC
Yes none of us have to tip! Oh wait, I do have a tip automatically added to my bill when I take the family out. Personally, I avoid restaurants that have servers. I don't get 10%, 15% or 20% after I make a sale; my customers would laugh. This goes back to the restaurant industry, The national Restaurant Association and their associated lobbyists. They are the ones that had YOUR lawmakers draft a bill that said, and I'll be paraphrasing here, restaurant employees don't deserve to make a decent living (WE DON'T WANT TO PAY THEM A DECENT WAGE). They can make it up in tips (WE CAN PAY CHEAP WAGES AND THE CUSTOMERS CAN DECIDE IF THEY WANT TO PAY THE DIFFERENCE). That way we can keep prices low (THAT WAY WE CAN KEEP MARGINS HIGH).



I think that we should get rid of tipping and change the federal wage law to cover all restaurant employees. This practice is entrenched in our society and with the political power of the restaurant lobby, it will never change. Is tipping fair, of course not. The data entry clerk that types in your credit card payment for $5+; do they get a tip. What if they type in the wrong information and you don't get credited on time? What about your paper delivery person, do you tip them for each paper delivery? If you have a lawn service, do you tip them after each mowing? Mowing and lawn care are tough jobs in most types of weather and many around here scoop snow in the winter.



All restaurant workers need to make a decent wage (not that the minimum wage is decent) and tips should be done away with. When I pay for a service; I expect that it will be done or prepared as presented/directed for the price that I have accepted to pay. As I said, it all comes back to the restaurant lobbyists and the legislation that has been passed many times. Does the current minimum wage law also exclude restaurant workers? I don't know for sure, but I'd be surprised if it didn't exclude them. Some people might even say that restaurant workers are being legally discriminated against, with their own wages.
?
2007-08-25 16:26:15 UTC
You should tip the pizza guy because he has to buy his own gas and drive his own old beat up car. Did you ever see the cars those guys drive??? I do. I see their cars when they bring the food, and I see their cars when I go to pick up my order (they are parked outside).



I don't order pizza, but I do order a hoagie or a cheese steak. My order usually comes to $6 or $7. I usually tip a dollar and the change. If the weather is bad, I tip more.



The pizza place is about a mile and a half from the house.



~Cindy! :)
Rob S
2007-08-24 16:31:11 UTC
The reason why you should tip us is because we keep a file on every delivery order. When we punch your order into a terminal, guess what comes up after we ask for your phone number? If you are a good tipper, drivers will compete to take your order, and will go out of their way to make sure it's on time. If you don't tip repeatedly, or are abusive, etc... Well lets just say you will get the kind of service you deserve. ;)

A wise man once said: "Never piss off a person who handles your food."

Think about it....
onabeerrun
2007-08-24 16:25:11 UTC
I would assume you are speaking of low priced restaurants where service standards are not set very high. Service positions such as bar tending were considered as revered a position as a doctor or lawyer. T.I.P.S. were given ahead of time to get the barkeep to get to them ahead of others, thus the acronym. All it stands for is To Insure Prompt Service. Today most servers make half of what minimum wage is, however, they are taxed at a higher rate. So if you stiff them on a bill the server loses money. On top of that, many servers have to tip out their server assistants (bussers) and bartenders. This is usually based on their sales, and so, once again they are losing money that must be tipped out to their help if someone doesn't compensate them for services rendered. Bottom line... Don't be cheap, or so will your service. BTW I am an RN
timwakefield
2007-08-24 16:01:52 UTC
Whereas your salary is related to the time you work, people who recieve tips rely on that as part of the income - generally they do not make minimum wage. When you go to a restaurant, there is no built in cost for the fact that you are being served the food instead of having it boxed up and handed to you. If people stopped tipping, they would eventually have to charge a service fee to compensate the waitstaff. In your case, I would imagine any place you go to more than once will give you bad service or something added to your food, so I would not tip at your own risk.
jsil
2007-08-24 16:36:19 UTC
I see your point, although waiters and waitresses generally make a few dollars less than minimum wage which I am pretty sure is only $5.75/hr. They are depending on the tips to make a decent wage. There is no sign that says you have to tip, most say tips are "greatly appreciated" Most people in that profession wouldn't be working there if everyone were like you. Who can survive on about $2.33/hr? Doctors and nurses, aides, and dental personnel make a decent wage they do not NEED the tip money, where as the wait staff couldn't survive without it.
tina e
2007-08-24 16:09:11 UTC
Waiters & waitresses rarely make over minimum wage & a lot of the tips they get are based on how friendly & how well they served their customers. Part of the income of the job is to get tips. You should switch jobs if you'd like more tips.



I agree 100% that you deserve better. It sounds like you work very very hard. I agree that people who expect tips for serving food are illogical & they should do something above & beyond expectations.
NeoPlasma
2007-08-24 16:02:42 UTC
It's just a "KNOWN" fact that if you go to a restaurant or order pizza, someone is doing something for YOU that they don't HAVE TO DO...



You are already paying the same price for the pizza and if you don't wanna tip at a restaurant, go eat fast food... Most these people do NOT get paid what you get paid to be a doctor...



Pizza delivery places don't charge you extra to offer delivery but yet they have people on their payroll to do so to offer you a service so you will choose them when ordering a pizza when YOU WANNA BE LAZY... Most these guys are using their OWN cars to do extensive driving and more to find your house and getting paid less than the average solely depending on your tips...
ashykat
2007-08-24 16:29:29 UTC
I agree that it's hard to have a job where people are rude to you, eg. hitting you, calling you names.



Now it's true that you don't have to tip your server at a restaurant, it definitely has happened to me in the past.



I've been a server for a very long time. The hours are long, I've never taken a break, I've had the rudest people I believe exist sit in my section, and I've been thrown up on once too, yuck.



As a server, my hourly wage ia $4.15. It is expected that most of a servers salary is going to be tips. The job isn't easy, you're running around constantly, you always have 50 things to do at once, and most of the people aren't very nice (although many of them are). I've always tried to go out of my way for people that are polite, and go that extra mile, so it's very nice for me when someone tips well.



When you go to a restaurant, you know that you're going expecting to pay for a meal and for the service that comes with it.



As a server, I would never, ever, ever, work for salary alone unless it was significantly more than $4.15. I see where you are coming from, but I'm sure you make a whole lot more than $4.15 an hour to do what you do. I support my family on my income, and it's an insult to me for you to expect me to wait on you if you do not plan to tip. It's rude, and I think it's awful that you're in this mindset. I suggest that you try serving for a week or two and tell me if you change your mind.



If you want to go out to eat, but don't want to tip, go to McDonald's. The food will be bad, you'll have to fill up your own drink, and the employees will be as stupid as they come, but you'll save a buck or two. Good for you.
Jeff
2007-08-24 16:32:49 UTC
If people didn't tip the people who bring food to our homes, then the delivery service would cease to exist. Or, it would have to be made up in the cost of the pizza, probably doubling, or an exorbitant service charge. These people make minimum wage, pay their own gas, endure wear and tear on their vehicles and use their own cell phones to make sure they get your pizza to you. Now, if tipping ceased as a custom, who is going to do that job, with all those expenses, for minimum wage?
athom8779
2007-08-24 16:25:16 UTC
Tips are customary in most "service" professions. A waitress doesn't typically just take your order and bring your food...She makes sure you have the specific condiments you would like, she customizes the dining experience to meet the needs of each individual customer. That is why you tip her. Not because of what she's being paid to do for you but what she's doing for you that isn't just placing your order and plopping your food down in front of you. As far as the pizza delivery guy's concerned, I would check with the place you're ordering from. Some of them charge for delivery. In that case-compensation is already being made for the convenience of having it brought right to your front door. If they offer "free delivery", the driver likely isn't being compensated for the wear and tear on his car unless you tip him. Since he is hand delivering your dinner and attempts to do so in a timely manner, a little gratuity doesn't seem all that outlandish.
grapevinerocks
2007-08-24 15:57:33 UTC
I actually think tipping is a great idea for anyone who is in a service job. Unfortunately today it is only certain professions that receive tips. I like the idea that a waiter or waitress gets more compensation if they do a good job. It is great to be rewarded for a job well done.
Dee H
2007-08-24 16:10:54 UTC
I agree with you that there are alot of professional hard working people who deserve tips that don't get them. Did you know that a pizza delivery person pays for their own gas. My husband has a part-time pizza delivery job on top of his regular full time job. Every time he delivers to a house and does not get a tip, whoever does that is taking away from us and our three children. It is not fair but it's the way it is. When someone comes to your home or business with any food delivery it is as a convenience to you so why not show some respect and at least give the person enough to cover the cost of gas to get them to you and back to the restaurant? And that delivery charge does n ot go to the drivers of the place my husband works. It goes to the owner. Have a heart.
K N 123
2007-08-24 16:37:41 UTC
I would prefer to pay a fixed price for a meal and let the restaurant manager determine the compensation for his employees. But that's not the system we have here in the US. The IRS assumes that waiters are paid a tip, so you really put them in a bind when you leave nothing. If you want to enjoy your meal without stress, just know that you're going to pay 15% extra and don't think anymore about it. If that makes you uncomfortable, then you shouldn't be going to a sit-down restaurant.
wsamson_7121
2007-08-24 16:12:11 UTC
I feel that you should tip the pizza guy or waiters and waitresses is because it is a common coutesy. They provided you a service. I usually do leave a tip when I eat at a sit-down restaurant. However, I do not tip at any fast food type of restaurants. Such as at an Italian fast food place.



Suggestions for you:



1)Please go see a shrink. You need to chill out and breath.

2)Quit your job and seek a new career.
nika
2007-08-24 16:17:15 UTC
It's great that you want to support unappreciated service, but I think the reason waitresses and delivery boys get a tip is because it is a luxury service. Meaning, when someone is too lazy to cook for themselves, they pay a little extra to have it brought to them. You're really paying for convenience.

Plus, who said wait staffers don't have to put up with name calling, screaming children (who sometimes hit and/or bite), frisky older men, picky eaters, and an assortment of unidentified liquids left behind by unfriendly customers?
anonymous
2007-08-24 16:00:27 UTC
Servers typically are paid much less than minimum wage because their income is supposed to consist mainly of tips. When I was waiting tables about 15 years ago, minumum wage was around $5/hr, but my pay was $2.18/hr plus tips. After taxes (I was also taxed on my tips, not just the $2.18/hr) and insurance, I didn't get much of a paycheck - maybe just $30-$40 per week. So that "plus tips" was really what I lived on. Yes, it is a server's job to serve, but the restaurant industry is counting on restaurant patrons to pay their salary.
Brad H
2007-08-24 15:58:09 UTC
20%? you must be crazy. since almost all of the pizza delivery chains have added " delivery charges" in the past few years and done away with any time requirements they have diminished their own service quality. If the drivers receive any of those " service charges" that should be considered. If not, shame on the companies. Weather should be a consideration. Many locally based companies don't charge for delivery, so that should be a factor as well. I would say $2 a pizza, situations withstanding.
pastadudde
2007-08-24 16:27:25 UTC
First of all, calm down, OK? Getting angry is not going to make it any better.



Yes, I agree that waiter and waitresses asking for tips when all they do is take order and maybe run some deliveries. Compared to what a noble job you have, it is sort of pathetic. (no offense to anyone here who has a waiter / waitressing job)



Furthermore, most restaurants charge service tax... which will be included in their pay already, so there is absolutely NO NEED to tip them.



And appreciate yourself k? You're helping save lives out there.
Bob B
2007-08-24 16:13:43 UTC
well, i for one am a pizza delivery guy. i make 6.25 an hour (much more then most actually). we need tips to make our bills plain and simple. i deliver in a decent area so i normally come home with 160$ in tips on top of my hourly wage over 7 hours. so i make decent cash.



i will tell you this though, people that dont tip, i give them the benefit of the doubt once. they dont tip a second time, thier food WILL TAKE FOREVER to get to them. i actually go out of my way to make sure certain people wait an hour to an hour and a half for thier food because i never get tipped.



look @ it from my point of view... would you rather take food to the guy who doesnt tip u and is right around the corner?, or would u rather take food to the guy whos completly the opposite way you need to go on this run but he tips you 5-10? your tipping for service rendered. last time i checked, nurses and doctors make a hell of a lot more money then i do, and my insurance rapes the hell out of me on the backend, after paying my bill to you guys. so give me a break. not everyone can make 40k - 60k a year... i work 2 jobs just to afford the things i love to do. do i have to work at the pizza shop? no, i dont. i have a regular 9-5 job that pays well, but i like the extra income. on top of that, my normal work day for the last 2 years is monday through friday, wake up @ 6:30 am to make it to job 1, leave @ 5:30 pm to make it to pizza shop @ 6 pm... work till 1am, go home, eat dinner, shower, catch up on some news/relax, go to bed about 2:30-3:00 am, wake back up and 6:30 am and do it all over again... so dont complain about having to tip when you make more or as much as i do with less hours and 1 job...



and o yea, we do spit in peoples food who dont tip, so let that be a lesson to u... tip em a dollar, at least its something....
aye
2007-08-24 16:07:36 UTC
last place i worked as a pizza is domino, they paid 5.50 an hour. $5.50 is nothing when comparing people making $13-$20 dollars an hour. think how much they will make for 10 hours in differenence of minium wage $7.15 and $5.50 and hours goes on.

and delivery has to use their own car, mileage of the car increased and has risk of being robbed or kill just to deliever the pizza. and need to go through snow/rain/foggy/ all these frastation. lot of people only tip $1-3 averge on any cost of orders, so it aint much at the end of the day with tips and $5.50 an hour to pay for they expenses
APizzaDude
2007-08-26 20:55:29 UTC
You would change your tune if you delivered pizza for a single day. The question you should ask yourself is do you like pizza delivery? IF you do than you shoud tip. The reason being is we work for money. If it costs us more to deliver pizza than we are being paid, than we will quit and find another job. What this means to you is due to high employee turnover you will continue to get late cold pizza. If you want it hot and fast, you should encourage your pizza driver to not quit his job. This means you should tip.



FURTHERMORE, it costs roughly 60 cents a mile to operate a vehicle. This means any deliver exceeding one mile from the store (2 miles round trip) costs the pizza driver money.



Bottom line is this, you don't have to do your thankless job. You can find one that thanks you better. When the pizza drivers find themselves spending more on their cars than they are being paid, they will jump ship. By not tipping, you are really saying that you prefer to go pick up your own pizza, because your action is encouraging the pizza driver to find other work.
anonymous
2014-10-30 16:45:58 UTC
When you dine there, you go through the front line, get your drink, silverware, and plate, and you pay for your meal. Then you pick where you want to sit. Your server--who, depending on the day and time, has between 7 and 25 (sometimes more, seriously) tables to tend to--brings you dinner rolls, clean plates, and keeps your drink refilled as well as gets you any extra condiments you may want. We also clear your dirty plates as you finish with them, and bus the table when you leave. Our restaurant doesn't have bussers, we do it.
anonymous
2007-08-24 15:52:07 UTC
i feel like you should tip a waiter/waitress b/c yes while it is their job to serve you have you ever seen what a waiter or waitress gets paid...i know here where i live in VA we only get paid $2.13/hr we depend on our tips to make a living....now your tip should reflect the service you were given ...were they attentive....nice...did they remember to bring you everything....was your drink always full.....things like that should affect the amount of tip you leave. However things like was the order cooked correctly....was the food good...was it prepared in a timely manor??things like that are 9times outta 10 out of your servers control and i feel shouldn't affect the tip! I'm sure in your line of work you make more than minimum wage and therefore don't realize how much a tip can really affect the person you giving it to!
a_soft_world
2007-08-24 16:04:33 UTC
Because you get paid hourly, and you get to restrain rude people. Here in MA, waiters and waitresses get $2.63 an hour. Try to live on that. 25 hours of work is worth $67 before taxes are taken out



I can't believe you go somewhere and don't tip your server. That is the rudest thing you can do. Waiting tables often includes cleaning the bathroom, dealing with angry cooks, working grueling hours with no breaks, etc.



I bust my a** 20+ hours a week to get myself through college--after taxes, I generally make about $25 dollars a week. Please tip your server. You do not know their background--they could have a disabled parent to support, or they could be a teenage mother struggling. You simply do not know, and it is extremely rude not to tip. The reason you go to a restaurant is to be taken care of--and servers do that at the price of their own comfort.
AnOnYmOuS
2007-08-24 16:00:25 UTC
You should tip your pizza delivery guy/girl because they are offering you the greatest convenience. Not only do they find your house based off of only an address, but they deliver your food right to your door! If that doesn't deserve a tip, then i don't know what does.
anonymous
2014-10-30 23:08:23 UTC
Servers are very particular about remembering faces. It would take me about twice to wait on you and I would remember that you dont tip. Word passes around the server staff, and before you know it, no one wants to wait on you. Everyone feels sorry for the poor sucker who gets your table, and you will forever get mediocre service. Its a cycle that will never end.
anonymous
2007-08-24 16:32:04 UTC
You obviously have never been a server before if you can even ask that question. A server's job is hard work, always having to more or less kiss anyone's butt who walks through the door of whatever establishment they work for, always smiling no matter what and more times then not having to deal with an unagreeale public who is too self absorbed in their own worllds to care about anyone else.



Now don't get me wrong, that's not all people, but that's at least 75% of customers according to my three years of experiance.



To make it worse it is typically the non-tippers who are the worst. They come in with a cocky attitude, act as though their server is beneath them and scum on the bottom of their shoes. They leave big messes which the server has to clean and I am not just talking about the tables. They let their children throw foot on carpeted floors, in some cases I have even seen them throw food at other customers, sticky substances like ice-cream or ketchup on the chairs, etc. They are rude and talk down to someone who for all intents and purposes is there to help them. They run servers hand and foot and then want to rample on for an hour about their poor little lives and jobs they are getting well paid for verses the server who is getting, typically, half minimum wage. Where I work that is $2.13 with no benefits whatsoever in most cases. We are talking maybe, maybe, a $34.00 check each week.



So you went to college and got a nurses degree. Whoo-hoo! Big deal. That doesn't give you the right to talk down to them. Some people can't afford college and others have demeaning job like that in order to pay tution. College kids gotta have money and not everyone can let Mommy and/or Daddy pay it for them.



Also, it is very arrogant to assume they don't have families too. Personally, I am trying to build tuition money. However, most of my fellow servers I have worked with are older women who never had other opportunities, single parents and/or college students trying to make ends meat.



One girl I work with in fact is trying to take care of her four children, all young. Her husband walked out on her a few years back leaving her with them and she has to do something to provide so she works almost everyday from open to close.



I can't speak from experiance for pizza deliveries but I always tip them about $5 if everything is done right.



People have to make a living: those who make more should be willing to help those who make less and at least are trying to take care of themselves.
whitefeather
2007-08-24 16:12:25 UTC
In addition to the servers getting the tip, many times whatever is tipped has to be split with other staff. Too bad. We always tip at least 20%.
suaveray9
2007-08-24 16:22:00 UTC
What is wrong with you people? Who cares if he is getting paid an hourly wage to deliver your pizza, chinese food, etc. Their job is "working for tips". Your lazy, fat *** decided to sit and wait on the couch for your food to be delivered to your front door, while the delivery driver is using his own gas money. Not to mention, he is wasting his time not getting a tip from your house when he could've taken a different delivery to another house where he would've been tipped.



98% of the people will tip. It's the "mad at the world, what have you done for me lately" type of punks like yourselves that round out the other 2%. It's also a fact that african-americans and Native Indians are least likely to tip. Caucasians are more likely to tip. It's the "poor" white folks out of the Caucasian group to tip less or not tip at all. If you don't have any money to leave a tip, then why are you spending $20 on a pizza at Pizza Hut? You're just wasting your money because a pizza isn't even worth $15. As long as your food is still warm, delivered in a timely manner and he or she is polite, then tip the driver. Yeah, it is up to you to leave a tip or not, but come on, act like a civilized person. You shouldn't be ordering in if you can't afford a tip. If so, then maybe you should take a second look at your own finances and not order such expensive food. Drive your own *** and pick up the pizza yourselves.



I think I'm going to go apply to be a driver so I can spit on you non-tippers food. Haha!

Much love!
anonymous
2007-08-24 16:07:17 UTC
Alway tip waiters with acceptable performance because resturants figure tips into the wages. "Since my waiters get tips I pay minimum" is standard in the industry. However if you are dealing with an illegal immigrant you should tip nothing. Your teenagers (as well as many adults) are competing for jobs with these people and you (assuming that you are not an illegal) already pay for their (illegals) schooling, roads, health care, etc. I figure that I have already tiped them.
Andrea
2007-08-24 16:40:14 UTC
The servers get paid less than min. wage. YOUR TIP IS THEIR INCOME !!!!!!!!! IDo you really think they would even smile at you or remember to bring you that extra sauce,extra napkins simply because they like being your personal servant? You should always tip at the LEAST 15%. If you get great service, definately at least 20%!!! I would appreciate it if we could all keep our servers happy so my dining experiences are worth paying for the overpriced food!!!!
anonymous
2007-08-24 15:56:51 UTC
Because the people you mentioned are paid much less than minimum wage and depends on tips to live.
aya
2007-08-24 20:55:48 UTC
Ummm...its generally understood waiters get like 2.50 an hour, you probably earn at least minimum wage, so the tips are to bridge that gap from 2.50 to your minimum wage. Restaurants are too cheap to pay a real wage, plus there is no benefits or retirement either. DUH. sounds like your job sucks- get a new one if you hate it so bad. Why not be a waiter and get a fresh perspective?
Samantha G
2007-08-24 16:25:22 UTC
maybe because its POLITE and if you cant afford to go out to eat, DONT. you make me sick. id like to see you work for 3.00 and hour and not get tipped. bet you would LOVE IT. i work for a restaurant, before i thought it was okay to tip 10-15%... WAY WRONG. you should tip 20% all the time, and more if the service was great. not to mention that most places require a TIP OUT to the bar or bussers.



maybe you should stay in your cave.
swift_wit_it_nj
2007-08-24 16:02:04 UTC
Around here, The pizza delivery guy makes 10 bucks an hour! With tips, that's making some sweet moola' with Uncle Rico....
Will D
2007-08-24 15:53:34 UTC
the reason for this is that they do not get paid minimum, wage, instead making their money off of tips which counts as taxable income, so it adds on to their hourly wage.... if you don't tip the person they're stuck with $5.75 an hour
spider1_adam12
2007-08-24 17:14:54 UTC
I completely agree with you. I wasn't originally going to answer this question, but after a few rude responses i read, I laughed and had to answer.



I dont believe you have to tip any food service person. I am in college. I myself had a job in a fast food restaurant for half a years, where we were not allowed to recieve tips. We made minimum wage, dealt with the worst sort of customers imaginable, were only allowed to eat company food on the premises (which we had to pay for) and it was busy, stressful, thankless work. Tip or not, we had to be courteous and make sure our food was exactly how the customer wanted it, or else face complaints, or worse... health code violations. I know what it's like to serve people without gratitude, but that's what I was getting paid to do. I voluntarily accepted that job, no one forced me. I knew what I was getting into when I was hired. What baffles me is the mentality that tipping is required. When I go to a restaurant, I expect a certain amount of service, a clean environment, and the food I order. I get a bill at the end of my dining, and that bill reflects the amount I have to pay, no more. I usually do tip about 5$ if my server is nice and service is prompt, because once again, I am in college, and trying to pay for my education. We pay for our lives in one way or another, and those in food service positions seem to forget that to get the nursing, dentist, or doctor job we've been dreaming of, we have to pay up the wazzoo for college bills. often, we have that debt until after we get a job out of college. Believe me, we pay for it. Who's fault is it that a waitress chose a job that pays below minimum wage? was she forced into that job? no. If we don't feel the tip is deserved, fine. We can also choose not to support that restaurant with the money we ALREADY GAVE THEM for the food.

I completely understand that the medical profession is a thankless job. My parents are both RNs, and sometimes I think the stress sometimes outweighs the pay. My mother does "bust her butt" working in the emergency room, and being one of the only African American women on her floor has put her through more hardships than any foodservice person could imagine. A few more thank you's would make her job so much more tolerable. we all know an emotional toll weighs more than a physical toll on the body. I would say waitressing, foodservice, and cooking (which I've done plenty of the 3) are as emotionally easy as you can get. Yes, she gets paid a decent salary, but she and my dad worked very hard to even get that far. It takes little talent or money to get into a waitressing position and its pay reflects that. It also takes little effort to drive a pizza a few miles from where it was made. who's fault is it that a person decided to make a career out of foodservice instead of getting a higher education? people who are paid more than minimum wage probably earned that right through hard work.



My point is, a job's difficulty, skill level required, or hazardousness reflects the amount of pay earned. If anyone should be tipped, it's someone who maintains the quality of your health, sanity, and happiness without expecting to be thanked at the end of the day. A tip isn't required when a glass is filled or food is brought through one door from another. Anyone can cook their own food, not everyone can start IV 's or set fractured bones.
webdivanyc
2007-08-24 15:48:11 UTC
I know that in NY if you are a waitress/waiter you do not get paid minimum wage (which is 7.15/hr). I believe it is $5 something...and the tips usually even it out to be minimum wage. I do understand your point in the pizza delivery person getting a tip. It is there job to bring you the food and unless they did something OUTSTANDING to bring me the order, I feel the same way you do...why should I have to tip them? A lot of places though do not have company vehicles and deliverers have to use their own car and pay for their own gas...so I guess tips would help...but it's not my fault or any other customers fault that you chose a job that pays under minimum wage or have to use your own vehicle....
spoken 1
2007-08-24 16:07:32 UTC
YOU- get paid min. wage or above

WAITRES- MIN IS $2.15 HR ( more depending in what state) because they are expected to make up for it in tips.



dental assist $10- 15.00

CNA start - $8.00-15.00

RN min start: $15.00

xray tech : min start $ 15.00

WATRESS: $2.15



from what i know thus far, by law people who make min. wage or above can not accept tips because of tax purposes, unless that certain profession has set up to receive and tax tips...(yes tips are taxed).... that is probable why you are not allowed to receive tips in the health care profession that you chose.
brianskoda
2007-08-24 16:07:17 UTC
IT IS UP TO YOU BUT I AM A FIRM BELIEVER THAT ,WHY DO WE TIP THE WAITER/WAITRESE THEY MAKE 3D A HOUR PLUS TIPS,THE COOK MAKES 10 AND THEY DO ALL THE WORK,I KNOW FROM EXSPERIANCE, THE COOK PREPARES THE FOOD,,AND THEY RUN THE ENTIRE KITCHEN THE WAITER TAKES ORDERS THEN DEMANDS THE FOOD BE OUT IN DO TIME THIS IS WHERE THE PROBLEM IS THEY ARE NOT SMART THEY MUST THINK THAT ALL RESTURANTS HAVE A GRIDLE THE SIZE OF A FOOTBALL FIELS, AS FAR AS THE DELIVERY I TIP 2D FOR UP TO 20 FOR THE BILL ANYTHING MORE IS TO MUCH MONEY FOR A JOB A MONKEY CAN DO WWW.B-E-ENERGY.COM
anonymous
2007-08-24 15:46:48 UTC
hmmm, i get your point somewhat ( especially as a nurse) but i think that eg pizza dlivery guys are paid very low wages, because the asumption is they wil make up for it in tips. however, it annoys me that some people with completely non professional jobs that require no study can make much more than I could ( eg bar person in abusy pub- i have worked in pub before and know it can be hard work but nowhere near comares to nursing stress
Smelly
2007-08-24 16:20:34 UTC
AMEN!!! I do tip at restaurants however if the server did an excellent job. Aside from that I am not going to tip them to make up for their low wages. If they don't make enough money then they should get a new job. Plain and simple. I don't get tipped for my work either.
anonymous
2007-08-24 16:07:05 UTC
your an idiot.. they bring a meal to your front door cause your *** was to lazy to pick it up without having to tip so basically phd or not ur dumb an selfish an probably dont get none
x0xaphr0ditex0x
2007-08-24 18:40:00 UTC
because im sure you get more then 3 dollars an hour.... thats why you tip delivery drivers and servers... because thats how they make their money... and if you are THAT bitter dont order out and cook for youself...
anonymous
2007-08-24 15:45:53 UTC
Yes, I do agree that doctors should get tips, but if someone's working as a pizza guy they probably don't have much money.
knight_57719
2007-08-24 15:47:23 UTC
We give them tips because they don't make much money and they'll spit in your food the next time you order if you don't.
Fashion diva
2007-08-24 15:43:44 UTC
Maybe you should quit the job and get a new one......Good Luck!
crls52
2007-08-24 16:05:30 UTC
I agree with you. I think tipping is out of hand, tipping waitress/waiters, barbers, pizza man/woman etc. etc.. this are jobs they chose to do they know what is there duties. one should tip only if he/she feel they want to tip not cause you have to.
Holly C
2007-08-24 15:47:22 UTC
You do not have to tip it just a courtesy.
Karamazov
2014-05-31 14:40:07 UTC
they expect it
anonymous
2007-08-24 15:46:36 UTC
you are right why should we. what have then done for us nothing one waiters got a ten thousand dollar tip who would give away all that money not me no way
Ian
2007-08-24 15:46:26 UTC
I hardly ever tip. Why should I give someone money to do their job? Where is my tip when I don't get your seats dirty after replacing your brakes? Tipping is over rated.


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